Get Agile #21 | Maximize learning to maximize value creation | Bas Vodde

The Agile movement led to the creation of customer-focused, independent teams. In many cases, however “independence” means “we don’t need to talk to each other” and “don’t touch our code” rather than “we’re not blocked by another team”.

During the LeSS Conference in Warsaw, Tomasz Wykowski from ProCognita interviewed Bas Vodde, co-creator of LeSS. They discuss the consequences of defining the product from the customer perspective versus the technology perspective, and how broader product definition impacts both the organizational structure and the need for collaboration between teams. They look at how private code limit cooperation and learning, how to maximize individual and team learning, why it’s important from the company perspective, and how developers can start building the habit of continuous knowledge creation.

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