Todd Little, chairman of the Kanban University, calls himself an ‘accidental agilist’. He joins Tomasz Wykowski from ProCognita to discuss why the Agile movement is failing in a lot of companies, which often leads to ‘Agile is dead’ statements. They start by looking at how agile courses make people happy, but don’t deliver what they promise. Then they check why comparing Scrum to Kanban doesn’t make sense and deep dive into the Kanban approach to improving knowledge work delivery. Todd explains why the Kanban approach prefers smaller changes over large transformations, as the former can often bring significant improvements. They discuss whether the ‘meet them where they are’ approach can lead to a local optimum of ‘better waterfall’, and how the organization can improve by understanding delays and managing dependencies. Learn more about Todd at 
/toddelittle and about Kanban University at https://kanban.university/.
This podcast was recorded during the Regional Scrum Gathering Dhaka 2025 . You can find Todd’s keynote at 
• “Managed Evolutionary Change”
